![]() ![]() I’m South Asian, and in our culture, you’re a doctor, lawyer, engineer, or you’re kind of the black sheep. ![]() But there is a focus on the color aspect. It hasn’t only just been people of color. So why not give them something that is within that same field, where they can actually take that real world experience to enact effective policy change in education? Do you always choose people of color as your guests, given the mission of your office? If they are tired of teaching, they’re gonna leave regardless. So, the best way to stop people from leaving the profession is to offer them an alternative. The thing I’m trying to prevent is more attrition. Are you worried you’ll encourage people to leave the classroom by pointing to other outlets for their skills? That sounds like it is at odds with the idea of using a podcast to recruit teachers. They are people who may have been teachers and then central office staff or people who are involved in policy or recruitment, painting that picture that we’re going to have a spot for you in education, based on what your skill set is. And so the guests that I was bringing on weren’t just expressly teachers. So, one of the things that I wanted to accomplish with the podcast is really to paint this three-dimensional picture of education, to show people that you don’t necessarily have to be to make a difference. However, not many people are privy to that fact. Later, I realized you don’t have to follow that linear route. In I had a very linear vision of what a career in education was: teacher, assistant principal, principal, superintendent, and so on and so forth. What else do you see as this podcast’s mission? You can’t put a price tag on how kids make you feel, or the experience ten, twenty years from now when they come back to you and say “you really changed my life by taking me aside and working a little bit extra with me.” Your office and the podcast focus primarily on recruiting and retention. We’ve touched on the challenges of the profession, but also the benefits. In the world of teacher recruitment, people can really sense when you’re being fake. I want to be as authentic as possible and have my guests also be as authentic as possible. How are you using the podcast to entice people, particularly men of color, to work in New York City public schools? What do educators say when they come on? This interview has been edited for brevity and clarity. ![]()
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